The man YESHOUA

A man : The son of Eternal

 

Miraculous conception ?

 

Come down, go down, send from the heaven ?

 

? A jesus before Jesus

 

the blood of the man YeshouaA Blood and a body without blemish?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A man: the son of God

Most historians agree and validate the historical existence of the Israelian man Yéshua (Jesus), born in Bethlehem according to the Gospels. We don't have a lot informations about his childhood because his fame began during his public ministry at the age of thirty, after his baptism in the Jordan. It is the way that begins the Gospel of Mark and John. His parents Joseph and Mary were ordinary Israelians living of artisans, their son had an ordinary childhood in a small town without renown: Nazareth (Matthiew 2:23). The child had a great interest in the Eternal and his mind was turned unto him, his way of thinking surprised religious leaders (Luke 2: 42-52). Just as Mozart was gifted in music at an early age (three years), Jesus excelled in the field of knowledge about the creator at the point to become one day the Israelian most famous in the world. The Bible is a part of our spiritual history, in his epoch, Jesus announce perfectly what we need to hear from the Eternal for centuries to come.

 

The Hebrews were expecting for the Messiah (mashiah), this word means "anointed" in French and "Christ" in Greek, this is the reason why Jesus is known by the name "Jesus-Christ", he is "anointed" by the spirit at his baptism. This man is a descendant of King David who was part of the tribe of Judah (1 Samuel 16:1). The people had great hopes about him, they wanted a glorious man who raises the nation of Israel above the other nations and deliver them from Roman power. The majority of the religious did not imagine a man like the Jesus's mind, they have preferred to glorify Bar Cokhba for example. Indeed, after the destruction of the temple in 70 AD prophesied by Jesus, the Jewish people continued to revolt with Bar Cokhba in the second century, but a heavy defeat awaited them face the Romans again. The spirit of Yeshua Ha Mashiach (Jesus the Messiah) wants we change firstly our heart before placing ourself on a high mountain to be seen by other people, we have a good demonstration of his behavior during the temptation in the wilderness (Luke 5:4).

 

For Hebrew, the Messiah was the descent of the word of the Eternal or the instruction ("tora" in hebrew), he was the way, the truth and the life which lead man to the creator (Acts 7:37; Deuteronomy 18:15; Luke 9: 35; John 14:6). Jesus is known to establish his kingdom through his words that works the inner man, no matter if you believe or not in his existence, everybody know his words. Jesus has the particularity to be the man who doesn't impose his kingdom by force in the manner of some kings, he often repeats that he is not from this world (the way of thinking and acting), even Muslims recognize the uniqueness of this character. As we said in our presentation, Jesus did not create a religion because he had the same faith than the Hebrew people, those who walk on his track are "anointed" too, they accept and practice the thoughts of "Messiah / Christ", hence the name "Christian" or "Messianic". The Bible says about one body in Christ, united (Galatians 3:26-39).

 

The "Jews" who have not accepted Jesus and non-Jews being divided about him, the believers are quite far to be united today. One of the most controversial subject is: the nature of Jesus. It is important to understand that nobody was waiting a Messiah who was God or a creature of God living in the heaven before going down into the womb of a virgin woman in the first century, Jesus did not exist during the creation of Genesis or before being conceived by the young woman Mary. For Hebrew, the Messiah (anointed) had to be always a man that we need to listen (Deuteronomy 8:15; Acts 7:37). We have noted in the subject "Creation" in the home page that the purpose of Eternal is that the man with the image of Eternal had to become a accomplish man, Jesus had to come logically from the human genealogy, this one of Adam the "son of God" (Luke 3: 23-38). His special and strong spiritual relashionship with the Eternal made him anointed by the spirit above his fellows at the baptism, he shall prolong his days (Esaie 53:10) through the resurrection (Romans 1: 4, Luke 1:36), showing that Eternal gives life to those he loves. The corruptible man who has clearly chosen the good becomes a living spirit, that is, a incorruptible man who eat the fruit of live and give it to the other (Revelation 2:7).

 

In the Bible, Jesus is not a man who had the brain of a god or an angel, as if remember the happy moments he had lived in heaven with his father before going down to Earth. Jesus truly knew the Eternal through the spirit which showed him what he have to know during his life: education, dreams, visions, and prophesies. The pure thought (holy ghost) of the Eternal brought him wisdom, understanding, truth, it is in this sense that we must understand the first chapter of John's Gospel which tells us that "the word of God" has been made flesh among men as the glory of an only son (John 1:14). The Messiah is the descent of the teaching of the Eternel, the descent of the Word of God on Earth, or the descent of the Torah in Israel, that does not mean that someone already existing (Jesus the word) would go to transform into a man on Earth. We can also read the proverb 8 which personified the wisdom in a poetic rhythm, in this sense, Jesus can be called spiritually "wisdom", wonderful, word of God" (Esaiah 9:6; Revelation 19:13). Unfortunately, centuries of tradition have forgotten Hebrew's teaching and change the nature of Jesus unto a wise god of heaven coming down to earth to save us. However, the main actors of the Bible are the Eternal and the man, it makes sense to read that the Savior is a man who reconciles us by means of the spirit of the creator, Eternal with man, united to him, it is the aim of the creation : With us is elohim (Immanuel).

1 Timothy 2: 5 For God is one, and one mediator between God and men is the man Christ (anointed) Jesus.

 

The man is Jesus son of God and son of man in the same time, with a little effort of understanding, Islam and Catholicism will cease their endless debates about those terms. Yeshoua is really the son of God as a son of adam who is begotten in the resurrection, he manifest that in the baptism. Islam was against the Trinity, but forget that Jesus still remains the "son of God", we just need understand that the Bible which calls son of the Almighty those who do the will of the Eternal (Psalms 89:27, Jeremiah 31: 9, Colossians 1:15 and 18; Proverbs 3:12, 2 Samuel 7:14, 2 Corinthians 6:18, John 1:12, Luke 3:22).

We see that he is called the "only son" in some passages of the Bible, this does not mean he was not human before, but he has a particular importance in the plan of the Creator because he matchs with a specific promise. Isaac the son of Abraham  is called "only son" when he had older brothers from the seed of Abraham (Hebrews 11:17). Isaac was unique for the promesse (an image of the messiah).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Miraculous conception?

The doctrine of the miraculous conception originate from the conflict that separated the friends of Jesus and the Pharisees who rejected him, then, the paganism infiltrated in the teaching as he has always been doing through the ages. So let's not throw the first stone on Christianity in thinking it is the only religion affected by dubious beliefs, we also find many fables in Judaism, the Eternal has corrected many time Israel which turned to paganism. The Christianity and Islam religion have naturally taken fables from some religious groups of Judaism, let's think for example about this interpretation of angels that come to procreate with women in the book of Enoch or the Book of the birth of Noah found in the Dead Sea Scrolls1. Noah was strange at birth, some thought his father was a creature of the heaven as some still thinking in the reading of Genesis 6. Whether it be the miraculous birth of Alexander the Great or a Jewish fable (1 Timothy 1: 4, 2 Timothy 4: 4, 2 Peter 1:16), let's try to identify the source of the problem to solve it, rather than blame a religion in particular. I think that the original teaching of Jesus'birth is spiritual and it has been distorted, misunderstood. In our Bible, the story of his miraculous conception of Jesus appears only in two Gospels, that of Matthew and Luke.

 

The prophets of the Old Testament, Joseph and Mary, the disciples, the apostle Paul and even Jesus himself never mentioned this miracle, I've concluded that this doctrine was not part of the original texts. A tense atmosphere prevailed in the first century seeing as Orthodox Jews fought against the teaching of the Messiah, the apostle Paul is an example because he persecuted the early Christians Israeli before his conversion. In the beginning, at the time when the good news spread to the nations, the miraculous conception was not taught and Jews strongly opposed to the propagation of the good new of Yeshua ha Mashiach (Jesus Christ) by attacking his teaching, including his genealogy why made him the biological son of the tribe of Judah. Kings and princes had conspired against him for the power in Israël, they sought ways to weaken his reputation as king and anointed one of the Eternal (Matthew 26:59; Deuteronomy 5:10). Indeed, let's remember that Jesus is not Jesus-Christ at his birth, he became anointed (Christ) at his baptism to become the "Messiah / Christ." By removing his connection with David, they touched to his application to be the Messiah (Matthew 5:17).

 

The aim was to erase his memory, written evidences may have been deleted between AD 33 and AD 73. As we have said, Yeshua was a real threat to Jews and Romans who ganged up against him (Psalm 2: 2; Matthew 26: 3; Acts 12: 1-6; Acts 4:26; Apocalypse 17: 12-14), this is the reason why we don't find a lot of writting about him. Some people have decided to reject his historical existence, but most historians still remain to agree on his existence, authors and documents mentionned to defend him are generally those of Flavius, Josephus, Pliny, Tacitus, the Syriac manuscript No.14658 of the British Museum2.

Of course, these texts can always be contested, but we show that some evidences exist, I would say that they tend to prove he is a real character. We have not a ghost behind a teaching which spread through people who strongly believe in him, John the Baptist, the disciples, Paul, James his brother.

 

Before explaining in more details why I don't accept the miraculous conception of Jesus in relation to the scriptures, I would like firstly to use our existing gospels to demonstrate that Yeshua was never God or a creature living in the heaven before coming to earth in the womb of a virgin. The word "pre-existence" never appears in the Bible and we should not be confused it with the "foreknowledge" that is related to the "spiritual plan" that I explain in the topic "creations" of the home page of the desert. The majority of believers usually think that the man Jesus was formerly God, or God the son, or an archangel or even an extraterrestrial. However, the two stories of Jesus are very clear, they simply explain that the holy spirit came to conceive a new child in the womb of Mary, and he will be called the son of God. The story of a celestial embryon or a existing son beside the "God" descending into the womb of a woman who remain virgin is not taught in this scripture, we shall study a bit further i this subject the verses that brought this misunderstanding. Let's read now this passage that explains the power and virtue of the Holy Spirit who came to conceive the child, like a new thing.

Luke 1:31  And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name Jesus.

Luke 1:32  He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

Luke 1:33  And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

Luke 1:34  Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man ?

 

The parallel of this passage is found in Matthew 1:18-21, the terms used are relatively identical, Yeshua (Jesus) is conceived when the holy Spirit comes to someone who be part of the house of David. In the beginning of the creation, let us remember that the Holy Spirit of the Eternal covered the Earth to bring life (naturally), that's what happened with Mary at the conception of the child. Among the Hebrews, tribal affiliation was through the father (Numbers 1:18; Ezra 2:59, Luke 2: 4), while the promises about the Messiah often go through the woman (Genesis 3:15; 17:19; Deuteronomy 7: 3-4), the Hebrew awaited the messiah fill by the holy spirit to the point of telling the word of Eternal came down on Earth among men, Jews would say that the messiah is the descent of the instruction (Torah). The shakinah (presence of the Eternal) would fully manifest through the man Messiah (John 1: 1-3) as a temple shows the physically (bodily) imprint of the creator on Earth (Jean 2:21). Some verses of the Bible tell us that the Messiah is the image of the invisible God, the Eternal dwells with him without concluding that he is the Creator of everything (Colossians 2: 9, Ephesians 1:23; Colossians 1 1: 15; John 17: 3).

 

The son of the Most High need firstly to grow in spirit (Luke 2:40; Isaiah 7:15) to become the real light of the Eternal during his ministry (Acts 10:38; John 3:34; Luke 3:22). Jesus is not God or an archangel who turns into a man, but the Holy Spirit works in order to spring the word by him, he receives the spirit without measure to raise us unto the truth.

Now, I would like to give more arguments to explain my point of view about the miraculous conception. I think the original teaching had to be understood spiritually as the beginning of the Gospel of John, Jesus is exactly like us, born to a father and a mother, the two genealogies would not be useless, they are both from Joseph (Solomon / Nathan), the seed of David :

 

Many verses tell us that Joseph, a descendant of King David, was his father (Luke 4:22; John 1:45; John 6:42; Matthew 13:55-56; Mark 6: 3; Romain 1: 3-4). We think that a child has two parentals relationships (father and mother), but I think there may be one more: this one of the Eternal. To explain this point of view, I refer to the plan of the Eternal, the names of some characters are willed by the Creator over the human will, with a different spiritual level. The child is anticipating as prophets or son, the messiah has a special role to play at a particular time. Yeshua is greater than John the Baptist, but both still confused by having a divine or spiritual connection with the Eternal plan (Malachi 3:1). This is the Eternel who give their name, Jesus will be special.

Isaiah 7:14 is a prophecy mentioned in Matthew 1:23. The Hebrew word "almah" used by Isaiah was translated by the Greek word "pathernos" and retranslated in our languages by "virgin". But the word "almah" means "young woman" rather than "virgin", exactly as the word "pathernos". Some translations have translated Matthew 1:23 as "young woman", it is an other proof. The law of the translation is that the word translated need to be always conform to the original. It is true that a young woman who is not married is virgin before knowing a man, but the verse does not say that the woman is pregnant and keep his virginity. Moreover, the context in Isaiah 7:14 is not just about Mary the mother of Jesus, originally, the sign did not speak about a miraculous conception.

The sign in Isaiah 7:14 is a message of hope to the house of Judah and King Ahaz. The name "Emmanuel" means "With us is God", it is poorly-understood becase it does not mean "with us (men) is G/god (Jesus), but "with us (Jesus and men) is God (the only Eternal)". The Eternal was with them and wanted to lead them to the Prince of Peace: the Messiah of the end (Genesis 49:10; Hebrew 1: 2).

The sign of Emmanuel begins at the time King Ahaz, the king of Assyria (Isaiah 7:16), the prophecy did not refer to a miraculous conception at that time because the sign was just a child (in view of the messiah) and children (Isaiah 8:18), it would represent a woman that gives birth to the Messiah. A sign is not always supernatural or extraordinary.

Psalm 2:7 does not say that Jesus was beggotten of God by Mary, he will be through his baptism and his resurrection. Yeshua learnt the good and evil (Isaiah 7:15), and he was declared victorious by the Spirit (1 John 5:1). The miraculous conception is not necessary to say that Jesus is begotten of the Eternal.

The miraculous conception was used to introduce the doctrine of the perpetual virginity of Mary, "Mother of God". Mary was an ordinary woman who got the favor of the Eternal (Luke 1:30). We must only worship the Eternal according to the words of Jesus (Matthew 4:10). Eternal is in Christ, but Christ is not the Eternal. The father is greater than him and us (John 10:29, John 14:28).

The old text Syriac Sinaiticus3 offers a different reading of Matthew 1:16, it is possible to understand that Joseph is the biological father of Jesus: "Joseph to whom was betrothed to Mary, begat Jesus" 2 The texts we possess are from the IV century, the original is mixed for over 200 years with the doctrine of the miraculous conception and it is complicated to find the truth.

Paul tells us that Jesus was "born of woman, under the law" (Galatians 4: 4). It does not mean that Jesus was born out of natural laws (a man and a woman). Instead, the woman had to carry the seed of man with the Eternal (Genesis 4: 1 Job 14: 1; Jeremiah 4:31, John 16-21). Paul never mentions the miraculous conception but adds that Jesus was born of the seed of David (Romans 1:3).

In the temple at twelve years old, Joseph and Mary did not seem to know that their son was born miraculously of "God the father". Did the angel Gabriel talked to them about this miracle ? If Jesus says he had to attend to the business of his father, it is because he did not look the same things than them, Eternal was already acting inside him since his birth. A similar passage is found in Matthew 12: 48-50.

In Luke 1:27, Mary doesn't think of Joseph to bear a son who shall be born in the near future. The coments she arises gives the impression that the doctrine of the miraculous conception is forced: "I do not know man"; "I am virgin"; "How is that possible?". It would be be more logical she thinks that Joseph had this power, they would live together! Was he too old? Mary was maybe like her cousin Elizabeth (she was barren) and the verse 34 would be maybe a volontary or involontary error of scrib, she could not have a child with man. Joseph wanted to repudiate her secretely, why? Did not he know this famous prophety about the virgin in Esaie about the prophety? When did he know that ?

The antichrist was already present in the first century, it is not a special person with a number 666 on his forehead like the american movies. Misconceptions were already present at the time of Jesus and they were many antichrists and false prophets. This is the teaching that is against the Messiah : "antichrist". The Jews did not recognize Jesus as the Messiah (1 John 2:18-22; John 17:3), they did not see the Eternal who spoke to them. We can read too that John taught that Jesus Christ came in the flesh (2 John 1: 7 and 1 John 4:1-3), it means he came by man, by the flesh (Matthieu1:1) and not from another way. Jésus became the Messiah, he "came from God" because he walked with the spirit of the Eternal in the eyes of the disciples (John 3: 2), he was fulfilling the prophets and the law (Matthew 5:17) to show that he was the true messiah, the son of the living God from the house of David since his birth, by the power of the holy spirit in him. Today, believers teach the opposite, Jesus would "come from God" in being not a real human because he was transformed into flesh : "came in the flesh". The verse is misunderstood, the messiah is some from the human race and it is Jesus.

Some believers cite the version of Matthew Shem Tov4 because it is written "son of the virgin (bethulah)" after the words "son of Adam" in Matthew 8:20. Firstly, I don't believe that Jesus spoke only of Jesus in saying "son of Adam", it would be better to translate "son of man (adam)" in a general sense ("anthropos" in greek), because he compared the man to animals in general (fox, birds, Psalms 84: 2-3).

The designation "son of the virgin" in the mouth of Jesus does not seem correct to me, in Matthew Shem Tov we find other differences, especially in Matthew 5 about the law. We will have the opportunity to talk about that in another topic. Thus, it is preferable to read the Greek version which does not tell about a "virgin". The creation is for the man of God, but he doesn't find his house in this world by a lack of harmony (Romans 8: 19-21). Spiritually, the assembly of the Eternal is compare to a virgin that give birth to the child

In the genealogy of Jesus, some people think Jechonias could not have descendants on his throne according to the Eternal's words in the old covenant (Jeremiah 22:24-30), so Jesus could not be a biological son of Jesus and he need a special birth. I would say that the malediction was for his timelife because Eternal can forgive children who comeback to him, some jews believe the maledictions was canceled (Aggai 2:23). We  must not forget that Jesus took the baptism and represented the Lamb who takes away the curses of the people, he remained the candidate for the throne by the mercy of the Eternal. Anyway, the Eternal did not say anything and change his mind when people return to Him with all their heart (Exodus 34:6-7).

Jesus nedd to be born in the house of Judah and it is not how he was born that makes him what he is, he became the messiah. Today, Jews are still waiting for a "messiah" without having genealogical traces of tribes, they can invent another messiah or maybe they will see Jesus who was pierced. In Matthew's genealogy, the four women mentioned have not always been rightful with the law and David his father killed the husband of a woman who became the mother of the King Solomon, it is not so clean (2 Samuel 12). I think we need to look at the messiah with the spirit of mercy, peace, ustice of the Eternal rather than to seek a purity of genes. Jesus is from the tribe of Juda.

Jesus is the spirit of the son that the Eternal want since the beginning of the creation, it is the spirit of the Eternal, fully. We do not need a carnal miraculous conception to realize that. The spirit of the Messiah and the spirit of Elijah are almost similar, I would say they have the same power for a long time (Luke 1:80 / Luke 2:40 / Matthew 14:2). John the Baptist is a mysterious son, it grows like a plant in the desert and we have no more informations about him than about Jesus before their appearance in the world. Elijah is essential but it must decrease before the greatness of the Messiah. If at that time, Jesus said that John the Baptist was the greatest prophets born of a woman, let's not believe that Jesus was not born of a woman, Jesus was really born from above, surpassing the prophets who just talked about him (Acts 3:24).

 

 

Important remark : Whether a virgin's birth understood spiritually or allegorically,or literally, this does not really bother me. My aim is to fight against the huge doctrines which have made Jesus someone else before his real existence in the first century. Later, Mary became the mother of a god creator or co-creator while Jésus is only a man, the messiah and the beloved son of Eternal.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Come down, go down, send from the heaven ?

Some Bible verses seem to teach us that Jesus was sent by Eternel into the world as if descending from heaven in the manner of Santa Claus or Superman. It seems he is not really from the earth (Adam)). In reality, we don't always understand the language of Yeshua (Jesus), exactly like some Pharisees of his time. The doctrine that Jesus existed before his real birth in the first century cause a lot of divisions among the believers which argue about his identity during a lot of centuries. This idea on this pre-existence of the messiah is fuzzy in the old covenant and we will continue to demonstrate that Jesus is nobody else but a man existing in the first century, the Messiah and the son of the Most High (Matthew 16:16) in the new covenant. We will try to explain in this chapter the terms that give us the impression that he comes from elsewhere in the heaven : What does mean "come from heaven, send in the world, down from the heaven" ?

 

Let us begin with the verses that show clearly people could not always understand his teaching. Jesus often spoke in parables (Matthew 13:10-13 and 34).

Mathew 19:11  But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given.

Mathew 19:12  For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.

 

John 16:25  These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew you plainly of the Father.

 

And let's profite of this gospel of John to explain those expressions that tend to make us believe that Jesus pre-existed in the heaven. We remember that the word "pre-existence" does not exist in the Bible, unlike the term "fore-knowledge" which is in relation with a project (1Peter 1:20; Jérémie 1:5). In John 6:51, Jesus teaches that he is the living bread which come down from heaven, let's realize that the disciples had understood he taught in parables in verse 60. If Jesus taught in parables, we have to think about the meaning of the symbols, do not interpret the words literally to avoid awkwardly understand of his words. We will give some examples, the words f Jesus are spirit and life (John 6:63) and it is inconceivable that Jesus teaches cannibalism:

John 6:53  Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.

 

The heavenly words of Jesus come from the Father of the creation, they vitalize much better than breads falling from the heaven to feed the stomach of Hebrews in the wilderness (Exodus 16: 4). Obviously, no one believed that the manna was existing in heaven, baked in an oven on little clouds. This is the same for Jesus, the spirit of the Eternal prepares (plan) and conceive for us, he materializes his thoughts in our world, his spirit gives life. Jesus is the new and true lump  from heaven, we need to inflate it with a good leaven (teaching of spirit) and eat (1 Corinthians 5:7-8).

Jesus the messiah is the new creation, he bring all things throught him in heritage (2 Corinthians 5:17; Colossiens 1:12-17).

 

Every gift of the Eternal comes from above and down in order to spiritualize the man on Earth, a not pre-existant body tranformed into flesh and blood is useless, there is no power, it doesn't exist. We will quote other examples to set out our arguments. In John 4:1, it is written that false prophets are "came out or came into the world" (believers often say "Jesus came into the world"), then, we can ask ourselves if these prophets were literally existing outside of our planet? Of course not, these false prophets had a father and a mother, they just came into the Jewish world in being declarating false prophets while Jesus is declared the Messiah. What can we think about the baptism which is supposed to come down from the heaven? Were the city of Jerusalem and John living in heaven before appearing?

We can read together the verses to answer to those questions:

1John 4:1  Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

 

John 1:6  There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.

 

Matthew 21:25  The baptism of John, whence was it? from heaven, or of men? And they reasoned with themselves, saying, If we shall say, From heaven; he will say unto us, Why did ye not then believe him?

 

James 1:17  Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning. (Colossians 3:10)

 

John 1:13  Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

 

1 John 3:9  Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

 

Galatians 4:26  But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

 

Whenever we read that Jesus came into the world or that God sent his son, we do not have to think that a being existed in heaven came down on earth. Rather, it is better to understand that the spirit performs the will of the heaven, from the Eternal. Eternal sent and conceived the son by the spirit, Jesus is not pre-existing from the foundation of the world, he is certainly not the creator or co-creator of the universe. The messiah (anointed one) let the fullness of the Spirit of the Eternal to fill him in order to make the works and the will of his father (John 14:10; John 8:28). he did not need to come from space to realiz that. Eternal saves himself through his spirit, the messianic spirit, the spirit of God inside man. If Jesus was sent into the world, let's note that the disciples are also sent later (John 3:16).

If Jesus is born of God at a time of his life on Earth, we can too after being born of a woman like him (John 3: 1-16; 1John 1:5). Jesus is the divine hero anticipated by the grâce and will of the Eternel.

John 17:18 As you sent me into the world, I also have sent them into the world.

 

The Bible never speaks about the creation of Jesus in heaven or in Genesis. It is simple the idea to manifest the son, the messiah which live through the epoch (1Peter 1:11, Ephesians 4:13-15; Galates 3:24).

The heaven and the earth created in the first chapter contains what we need to know (Genesis 2:1), let's not imagine a Jesus with angels next a superior god to create, the scripture did not want to speak about that. Jesus is not created out of the time too, he existed for the first time in the fist century. John the Baptist and Jesus are two messengers in the world according to the prophecies of the Old Testament, were they both angelic creatures of heaven who were waiting the autorization of a god to descend on Earth? Was Jean-Baptiste speaking to Jesus in heaven? No. The two men normally "come in the flesh" and it is in this manner we need to understand the parabole in Matthew 21 (God sent the servants and the son) and the prophecy of Malachi:

Malachi 3: 1 Behold, I send my messenger (who will be John the Baptist) and he shall prepare the way before me; and the Lord whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, and the Angel of the covenant (who will be Jesus) in whom you delight, Behold, he cometh, saith the Lord of hosts.

 

John and Jesus are only men, they were born of a woman (Job 25:4; Jeremiah 4:31), but simultaneously, Jesus had the grace to be the new spiritual seed on the way that John the Baptism was preparing. Jesus will become superior to the prophets as messiah by the grace of the Eternal. The glory of the only son was able to raise unto the Eternal in the high point (John 3: 3 and John 3: 12-13; Ephesians 2: 6). We do not approach the Eternal in raising litteraly higher and higher towards the stars, but going more and more close to the truth and divine love, climbing pick the fruits of heaven (Jacques 3:17). The words of the Eternel inside the messiah show us the way:

John 14:5  Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?

John 14:6  Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

? A Jesus before Jesus

The Christian tradition wants the man Jesus pre-exists in heaven before his birth in the first century AD. As we have mentioned in previous chapters, many churches believe that the Messiah was an archangel, God, God the son, a creature of the heaven who lived close to the Eternal. I can only advise you again to read the work of Claude Tresmontant that I was delighted to discover at a time when the majority of believers were opposed to my reading of the Bible concerning this subject. This man wrote a translation of the four Gospels from Greek into Hebrew, but most importantly, he understood that the messiah has no pre-existence, he is a man. I invite you to provide yourself with a Bible for I did not copy the verses to save space. I wish you good reflexions.

 

Verses from the Old covenant :

Genesis 1:26: The plural used doesn't make any reference to a trinity, it is written nowhere in Genesis that Jesus is a creator beside the Creator. Those who understand that Jesus is a man, he can not exist before the creation of men, it would be illogical. We should be based on on the text at the moment of creation, the man is created in the time: the sixth day and not before.You can also read the chapter "only one Eternal" in the subject "Creations" located in the home page of this website.

Genesis 3: 15 : The prophecy is in the future, the seed of the woman will be against the snake. In giving birth to her first son with the man, she conceived a child with the Eternal (Genesis 4: 1).The messiah will come from this seed.

Genesis 49:10 : The prophecy is again in the future and the Messiah will come from the tribe of Judah (not from elsewhere), he is not existing in the heaven.

Job 38: 7: The son of God or son of Abraham are compared to the things of heaven, we find some comparisons and metaphors in the Bible. The son of Abraham are like stars, Jesus is the morning star, Jacob is a celestrial body, the king of Tyre was like a cherub who turned away from the Eternal in the manner of Adam in Eden, among the stones precious. The accomplished man and his elected are like the messengers of the world, they support the universe like angels. Jesus is a man and he is certainly not literally an archangel or a creature that created the univers. Read too Genesis 37:9.

Eternal is the God of the living and calls the families or things (psaulms 147:4; Esaiah 40:6; Ephesians 2:19; Ephesians 3:15) which do not always exist as though they were (Matthew 22:32 ; Roman 4:17).

Psalm 132:11: The Messiah is the fruit of the womb of David. The promise is always for a future time.

Isaiah 6: 3: The Eternal is thrice holy and some hint at the Trinity (God the Father, God son, God the Holy Spirit). But in fact, the Hebrews reinforce his holiness or his presence (in the temple) by repetition (Jeremiah 7: 4). Eternal is one holy God for all times (Deuteronomy 4: 6).

Isaiah 7:14: The pregnant "young woman" is a prophecy that begins to be applied at the time of Ahaz king and the king of Assyria. Originally, it does not refer to the miraculous conception of a God or an angel, but a child or children (Isaiah 8:18) that descend from David's house (Genesis 49:10). Please, see the table in Chapter 2 "Miraculous Conception" for more details.

Isaiah 9: 6 : we read that Jesus is "mighty God", but other translations say "mighty man" in the sense that Jesus is the powerful champion of God, the son of God (Psalm 82: 6 and John 10: 34). Regarding the words "Eternal Father", he is "father" because he brings eternal life for future generations by his spiritual words, much like Abraham was "the father of many nations".

Isaiah 35: 4: It is often says that God save us himself. It is true in the sense that it is only God that actually saves by his spirit and power, but he uses men like Jesus or Moses (Deuteronomy 18:15). Jesus needs the father because he could not do the work without him, he is not the Creator (John 14:10).

Jeremiah 31:22 : This speech seems symbolic because Israel is like a virgin in the previous verse. We know that the country was not virgin at all at this moment and even before since the people needed to come back often to creator. The words "created a new thing" don't necessarily mean that God is going to create something from nothing, let's take the example of Jacob and Israel that were created (Isaiah 43: 1-7). Note also that the verse isn't quoted in the New Testament to support the miraculous conception of Jesus. The new thing created can be anything than a miraculous conception, we know that Jesus is the author of the new covenant and the new creation that the Hebrews were not known (Jeremiah 31:31; 2 Corinthians 5:17).

Let's reas also Isaiah 43:19 and Apocalypse 12: 1-5, the verse proves that the thing was not already created before coming to Mary, it was not pre-existing because this is a new thing created!

Daniel 9 :13 The son of man (adam) who comes and does not have a name représents a future vision of the son of man (adam) Jésus in the Ist century. The domination is given to him.

Micah 5: 2: The verse tells us the birthplace of the Messiah and his provenance. "Origins" refer to "the provenance" of the Messiah, this does not mean that he has been already existing since "the days of eternity" but he is expected "before the foundation of the world" (3 Peter 1:20). It is better to translate "the days of eternity" by "days of old" as in Micah 7:14 and 20.

Thus, its origin is in the seed of Adam and all the promises made to the fathers (Genesis 3:15 and Genesis 49:10). Also see 2 Samuel 16: 1, 2 Samuel 7: 12-16, John 7: 42...etc.

The origin refers to the ancestral descent of the Messiah, the son of David was the son of Jesse of Bethlehem. Just read the genealogy of Matthew 1.

Proverbs 30: 4: We are not obliged to believe that Jesus is already existing in the heaven, nothing indicates that. What is the name of God? Eternal (Exodus 3:14). What is the name of his son? Israel (Exodus 4:22, Deuténome 14:1). In the same way, David is the son of elohim in his time (Psalm 89:27). The Eternal begots by lowering his spirit, do you know the name of the Messiah who will be the veritable son of God?

Proverbs 8: 22-30: Personification of wisdom wishing to live man, the chapter is poetic (Job 28:20; Psalm 49: 3; Ecclesiastes 7:12; 1 John 1-3). In Hebrew thought, the spirit of the Eternal is the beginning of creation is the wisdom and the understanding, it is like a son too who reflects the image of the creator. But Jesus is absolutely not in the heaven and called "wisdom".

 

Verse from the New Testament.

Matthew 1:23: My opinion about this prophecy is given in the table of the Chapter 2. "Emmanuel" does not mean "With We (men) is God (Jesus), but :" With us (men whose messiah) is God (Yahweh). How is he with us? By building a temple with human stones (1 Peter 2: 5). Emmanuel is not the physical transformation of God or a god (angel or creature of the heaven).

Matthew 28:19: I think that the phrase "in the name of the father, the son and the Holy Spirit" is an invention to support the trinity (it is weird like 1John 5:7). According to Eusebius said ancient texts do not mention it. All other Bible verses confirm that the disciples and apostles baptized in Jesus' name. It is still possible that the verse is correct and misunderstood (trinity), but this is not my opinion.

Mark 12: 35-37 : Jesus is the son of David according to the flesh and son of God by the spirit. Jesus said that he is superior to David because he is the master, the accomplish son, the messiah. David saw him in spirit, in the glory that awaited him (the throne), he was anointed above all in his baptism. In heriting a name above every name, he was the messiah and lord of David. Jesus has the keys of the resurrection and David knew that, even if he was his son according to the flesh (Matthew 1:1; Luke 1:32, Matthew 9:27). Notice that Matthew 23:43 asks: "Why David in spirit ...", which is in harmony with what we say, the mind says future realities. Others prophets saw him in spirit but Jesus was not living in the heaven.

Luke 2:46-47 Let's not think that Jesus knew all the things at twelve years old because he used to live in the heaven close to the creator. The religious were astonished by his questions because he was very advanced about the word of God. However, do not think that Jesus was able to tell to the doctors of the law his daily life and his adventures in the world before coming to Earth.

John 1:1 : John uses the Greek word "logos" which is "dabar" in hebrew and "word" in English. We have not to change that word to "Jesus or son" for it would completely distorts the meaning of the verse. The Israeli John is not trying to say that Jesus is a God or a god, he used specificaly the term "logos" and does not want to write other thing. The problem come from a lack of understanding of Hebrew thought rather than a grammatical error that we often listen in the theological debate. A Jesus is not the creator of the universe beside the Eternal, Let's read the verse :

"In the beginning was the word, the word was to God, and the word was God (God, like God, divine, but certainly not "a god" in the though of John).

 

Some Bibles do not translate the greek word "pros" (preposition of direction) by "with" but rather by "forward to". The word comes unto the man and turn him unto the creator, the reason we have prophets and the messiah who represent "the word" of God. The word has been,"is made" or "becomes" flesh in verse 14, but it was not already a creature living in a celestrial body in the moment of the creation. Jesus will be called " Wonderful, powerful man, the only son of God, the word of God (Apocalypse 19:13) in doing sent up the word of God which is inside him by the fullness of the spirit. This is important, the word is not Jesus, he did not speak and create in Genesis because only Eternal who said and made himself.

John 1:18 : Some Bibles read "only begotten god" instead of "only begotten son". I think we just need to read "son" for Jesus is often "son of the Most High" in the Bible (Psalme 2:7; John 3: 16; 18; 1 John 4: 9...). Above all, I believe that John made a statement on the entire life of Jesus, he is the man whom the Eternal loves, the only begotten son who is in the bosom of the father. If we translate as "god" or "power man", it would not be a problem as it is written in Psalm 82: 6 and Isaiah 9:6. In any cases, the verse does not say that there was as God or archangel before being begotten.

John 3:13 : Having been born of the flesh, Jesus also told us that he need to born of the spirit (John 1:3). Eternal sent his spirit from heaven to earth, a bit like a gardener that let the watering can dropped the ground. Jesus receive that since the beggining. Whosoever born of the spirit or from above makes the will of the Heaven, he keeps the word of the Eternal. Whosoever born from above can ascend unto the source of his begetting (1 John 3: 9, Luke 22:30, Ephesians 1: 3, Revelation 4: 4), it is a celestial tree that will grow and get high its leaves bloom in the sky, in the foreknew Jerusalem. The verse 14 makes a comparison with the snake in the wilderness (Numbers 21: 7-9in relation with the verse 13 : Jesus did not say he has ever gone in the heaven because he does a deductive reasoning.

Eternal is a gardener who sends the seed (spiritual) on the ground, this is how we become in our turn (like Jesus the spiritual seed) the seeds of the Most High sent into the world (John 17:18; John 20:22).

John 6:58-62: Jesus is symbolically the bread that nourishes the spirit of the man rather than the stomach (John 6: 31-32). The difference between the two breads is absolutely not a pre-existence story.Jesus speaks of the resurrection that will bring him up to where it should always be in the eyes of Hebrews as lord or messiah: to the right (power) of the throne (glory) of the Eternal.

Jesus was not already literally next to God in heaven. We have no indication of what kind of god so important in the Old Testament!

We can undesrtand : "What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before / firstly?" In the plan, in the spirit of God, in the eyes of God (v63). Prophets saw him in this way.

John 8:24: Some think that Jesus says he is the "I WILL" of Exodus 3:14, but he simply asked to the Jews to listen and recognize the voice of the Eternal in him. They had to understand he was the Messiah, the savior, the son of very high (Matthew 16:16). The Greek used to say "I am" in John 8:24 is "ego eimi" and It would be interesting to translate that "it is me"

John 8:58: It is better to translate as "before Abraham it is me (ego eimi)". Abraham saw Christ in spirit, he has even took the bread and wine with the king Melchizedek, a type of priest like Jesus. Obviously this Melchizedek is not God or angelic creature, he is a priest man that we don't know the genealogy, he has not part of the Leviticus order established by the covenant of Moses. David and Daniel also saw the day of the Messiah, always in spirit. They saw indirectly (1 Peter 1 10-11; Hebrews 11:13) the promise of Abraham. Jesus Christ is the shilo (Messiah) from the tribe of David, he is superior to Abraham, and he could say :"This is me before (precede) Abraham" or "before John the Baptist" (John 1:30). It takes place before them since everything is done through him in the spiritual plan of the Eternal

John 10:30: The disciples will also be out of the world (John 17:22). This is the spirit that united us, the man Jesus shows the invisible God without being God or an Archangel (John 14:8).

John 16:30 : Does Jesus know all things ? No (Mark 13:32). He knows the whole truth about the scripture. Eternal tell him everything he needed to know, but he doesn't know the number of hair in our head.

John 17: 5: The translation I give to this verse has often been rejected by believers, but I still believe it is absolutely not talking about a pre-existence of Jesus. The translation of Claude Tresmontant I have discovered later, strengthen my thoughts. Jesus would not be beside God from the beginning of the world, but the glory of the Messiah or the accomplished man precedes the creation in the Creator's plan, he is the principle of his creation. I translate this verse as follows: "and now (it is time) glorify thou me, O Father, with thyself, with the glory which I had before the world was with you." The words "with you" have been moved at the end of sentence like in the Greek text. The Douay-Rheims Bible and Claude Tresmontant did the same:

"Now and Abba, glorify thou me with thine of the glory that I have before the world was with you." (Douay-Rheims Bible).

"And now you glorify me my father in your own eyes of the glory that was mine before it is the duration of this world in your eyes" Claude Tresmontant: Yehohanan Gospel (John)5.

 

Jesus wants the glory of the son of man be shared with his brothers (John 17:24; Roman 8:29). Note also that Jesus does not ask the glory he had before descending from heaven into the Virgin Mary, as if he was pre-existed in heaven. Jesus is begotten and sent into the world (1John 3: 9), he gets a place he had not before (Ephesians 1: 20-21, Philippians 2: 9, Hebrews 5: 8 and John 3:14).

Christ is the seed of Adam, he lost his glory with the fall of Israel which finishs to crucify him. He had to be lifted to heaven as Moses' snake in the desert !

John 17:24: The verse confirms that the love and the glory have been given to Jesus, he wants to share it with his brothers, the men (Ephesians 1: 4, 1 Peter 1:20). Eternel loves us in him since the beggining.

John 20:28: Thomas is surprised he exclaims miracle through a Hebrew expression. He recognize the Eternal (his God) who worked with the truly Messiah (lord). Simply.

Romans 10: 6-7 These verses represent the rejection of Jesus' mission (the grace of the Eternal) that brings a burden is light (Matthew 11:30), face to the judgment of the works of the law (verse 4). We do not have to do extraordinary things (Deuteronomy 30: 11-12), we must believe (faith) in the resurrection (verse 9). Paul tells us that we should not reject the grace of the Eternal and not remove the usefulness of the ministry of Jesus who ascended to the Father as a priest great lawyer: "Descend from heaven or the cross Jesus ! we 'have no need of you because we know the law." Jesus helps the weaks when he went down among the dead, but some will say, "You did not need to arise the dead, they are wrong according to the law." Jesus is not a creature who descended from heaven to Mary, the spirit begot the son of the Most High and he descended to the dead. Moses and Jesus went to the mountain of the Lord to descend with a useful glory.

1 Corintios 10:4 : Assim como João Batista é a voz espiritual do deserto no Antigo Testamento, Jesus é a rocha espiritual que traz a água do Eterno no caminho do deserto (Neemias 9:15). Esta passagem não tem nenhuma ligação com uma identidade de estar no céu com os hebraicos! Mais uma vez, temos de compreender que o Eterno quer transformar o homem através dos tempos, no espírito do Messias. Muitas vezes o "protótipo" de Cristo (Melshisédeck, Noah, Moise, 1 Pedro 1:11), e símbolos são usados para prefigurar Jesus o Messias, que existe desde o primeiro século.

Ephesians 4: 8-10: The son of man from the tribe of David, born from above, is go down untill the death to raise his brothers. The verse does not talk about a transformation of a creature in the womb of a woman, it does not exist. Men (adam) does not ascend to the Eternal before eating the tree of life, including Jesus.

Philippians 2: 5-10: The meaning of the text has been completely distorted by believers who have been teaching for centuries a Jesus creator of the universe transformed into man. The verse invite us to have exactly the same thoughts or feelings than Jesus during his ministry. Jesus is the same figure than us, this one of the man adam who had to take the way of the Messiah (Romans 5:14). It is written that Jesus is in "the form of God", the contrast is not to make a difference between a celestial form and a human form, but to explain that the son is in the likeness (external appearance) of God on earth (Acts 17: 28-29, John 10:34, Colossians 2: 9) did not try to make the same mistake that Adam, King of Tyre, or Herod, in trying to be equal with God. Even with all the revelation and fullness of the spirit, he humbled himself and took the "form of godliness" (2 Timothy 3: 5). Jesus did not seek fame and wealth of kings, the Messiah appeared as a simple man, he humbled himself as a servant by washing the feet of his disciples. Finally, people spits on him and hung him on a tree like an animal, the lamb. This passage invites us to possess the same spirit and has no relation with a heavenly nature which comes on Earth.

 

In verse 7, Jesus has not been emptied himself (make no reputation) to take a "human form" in flesh in contrast to a "form of God", he simply took a "form of a servant" while he is the king and the manifestation of the Father (form of God), the Messiah (John 8:29; Psalm 22; Luke 22:27). Let's add a little detail of translation, some Bibles says "being made as a man" instead of "becoming as a man".

Colossians 1: 13-17 : The Eternal is the only creator of Heaven and Earth (Isaiah 44:24), but believers imagine that Jesus and angels also created the universe in the first chapter of Genesis. This is not written, but the majority of believers use those verses of the Epistle to the Colossians to make the man Jesus the creator of all things. Paul was addressing to the Saints in Colosse, the heritage of the saints (verse 12) was the kingdom expected in the spiritual plan of the Eternal (Daniel 2:45; Matthew 11:27). Jesus will create the heavens and the earth (Isaiah 56:16; Hebrews 1:10) as his father. The goal is to bring all things created by the creator in his kingdom. It is in this sense that all things are made by the son at the beginning of the world (2 Corinthians 5:17, Galatians 6:15, Ephesians 1: 4). A reading problem arises because of our translation of the Greek word "dia διά" that could be translated "through (by love...)” within the context. Thus, it is through Christ that everything is done, as I explain in the chapter "spiritual plan" of the subject “Creations”. Everything is done through him.

 

Let us recall that Jesus became the Messiah (Anointed / Christ) during his life. The spirit of the Lord, the spirit of Christ (1Peter 1:11, 1 Corinthians 10:4), the antichrist spirit, the spirit of Elijah, the bad spirit, the holy spirit are not people, but they will take ownership to persons who are existing in the divine and prophetic eyes of the Eternal (roman 4:17).

Another preposition is translated by "by" in this text, it is "en" which can also mean "in". All created things find their meaning in Christ (Ephesians 5:13). Jesus is not the creator or co-creator of the ends of the earth (Isaiah 44-24) of Genesis. The man Jesus creates the perfection of existing systems of things for our development, the heavenly and earthly things (earthly bodies, spiritual bodies, terrestrial and celestial organization of the church, gifts ... etc) turn unto him since the beginning where they were created. He is the principle of creation, the goal, the origin of his work.
Let's
Be aware of the importance of the man in the eyes of the Creator? That is the real message of the Bible.

 

The verse 15 tells us that Jesus is the firstborn of all creation, he is the image of the invisible elohim (God). Again, the explanation has been diverted. The first-born or begotten of all creatures is Jesus. It is best translated as "creatures" (Darby) rather than "creations". "First born creatures or creations" has never wanted to say he is the first creature created in the heaven, it makes no sense and is not confirmed by the Book of Genesis. The first human is earthly: "adam". Then, we have the heavenly man begotten by the spirit (1Corinthians 15: 45-47) who will be above all creations.

1 Timothy 1:17 Eternal is immortal (Jacques 1:17) and he can’t die on a cross. Angels do not have to suffer either to save men with a magic blood. Eternal is wounded himself when we hurt our neighbour (Matthew 22: 37-40; Psalm 22:16-17; Zechariah 12:10; John 19:37). But he welcomed the manifestation of love to listen him (Galatians 6:18; Philippians 1:27; Hebrews 9:14, John 3:16).

1 Timothy 3:16 : "God manifest in the flesh" does not mean that God turned into man, but he is manifested through the man Yeshua. Other translations say "who that was manifest in the flesh”. Personally, I think the good translation is "god manifest in the flesh" (John 1: 1; 2 Corinthians 5:19, 1 Corinthians 6:19) because all the fullness of the divinity (the only Eternal) is in him.

Hebrew 1:1-14 :

- The verse 1 and 2 begins by telling us that Jesus did not speak to them before. Those who say that Jesus was already speaking as an angel or archangel not really many supports, Jesus is invisible and they give to him an other name to create him (Michael, God...). For example, it is not Jesus who was in the burning bush with Moses, but the "shakinah" (presence of the Eternal) which will be in the messiah too. Then, it is written that Jesus is the heir (with us Ephesians 1:11) and that everything was done "through / love / for" him.

Let’s note that the translation "the world or the universe" is not really correct because the greek word is actually in plural, it is better to read that the Eternal created "ages, centuries" for the humanity (Ephesians 2: 7) through Jesus-Christ rather than the universe and the stars! Just as Adam was creator on Earth, Yeshua the Messiah is also creator for centuries which has to come.

- The verse 3 tells us that Jesus is the footprint of the Eternal among men by / through his words (because the spirit is in him without measure).

- The verse 4 confirms that it is more important than a messenger (man, archangel...) although he is also a messenger with John the Baptist (Malachi 3: 1). The contexte seem to speak only of angel in heaven. He is the Christ, the ma, and the son of the living God (Matthew 16:16).

- The verse 5 refers to Acts 13: 30-33 for his resurrection and the verse 6 recall the Psalm 72:11; Psalm 97: 7. The term "firstborn" is related to verse 5 about the resurrection, Jesus receives the glory and honor by the Eternal, but he is not worshiped as the supreme God.

- The verse 8 does not say that Jesus is God, he just ascend on the throne (glory) of his father as the son born of the spirit (we can up on his glory throne too, God is spirit), this corresponds to a psalm about the spiritual elevation of the man for King David (Psalm 45: 6-7). The context proves that man in Jesus rises by sitting on the throne of God (1 Chronicles 28: 5; Apocalypse 3:21). The verse 9 does not necessarily call Jesus "god" but it did not bother us so much because the powerful men are called "god" or "son of the Most High": Psalms 82: 6. I tend to think would cause a repetition of the name of the Eternal God, example: "that's why the Eternal God, your God." The verse 10 and 11 want to explain the same thing, the sentences apply to the “son creator" of the new heavens and the new earth (Isaiah 65:17, Isaiah 51:16, 2 Corinthians 5:17, Apocalypse 21: 5). The Psalm 102 represents the servant who asks to inherit the characteristics of the Eternal in order to live in his presence. Eternal gives his glory to the son of man, he speaks and do through him (John 14: 6, John 5:23).

Hebrews 2: 6-9: The Chapter 2 is a very strong proof that Jesus is only conceived “Man”, he is linked to the previous chapter. Certain will think that Jesus is lowered below the angels as if he had lost a divine nature  (verse 9). With more attention, the verse 7 uses the same expression to speak of mankind, it is written that all men are made less than divinity. The answer is clear from reading Psalm 8: 4-8! It is better to read "made lower than the dieu/God". This psalm is unavoidable, it is impossible to think that the man (Jesus) was an angelic creature who becomes a terrestrial human in the real context. Jesus was in all points like his brothers, he was made like a man. In summary, Hebrews 1 and 2 emphasize that Yeshua is only a man, the beloved son is the most important, above all creatures.

Hebrews 2:17: The Eternal does not want that angels become priests. Jesus the messiah need to be exactly like his brothers: the human.

Hebrews 7: 3: The context of the Letter to the Hebrews speaks of sacrifices. The verse does not mean that Jesus has no father (Eternal, Joseph) or mother (Mary) but is priest after the order of Melchizedek. The King of Peace was the priest without being part of the tribe of the Levites!

Hebrews 13: 8 Jesus is the same yesterday (at birth in the first century), today, and forever. We can think that Jesus has always been a man in the eyes of the Eternal.

1 John 1-10: These verses testify in favor of my explanations of John 1: 1-2 and Genesis 1:1-2. It is important to distinguish between the man Jesus and the word of the Eternal. Both are the light of life because the word of Eternal appears through the messiah in the first century.

1 John 4: 9: "sent" does not necessarily mean that Jesus come down from heaven unto the Earth by changing his nature. See Chapter 3.

1 John 5: 7: Verse that is not found in some old manuscripts.

2 John 1: 7: The purpose of this verse has lost its meaning, "come in the flesh" doesn't mean that Jesus the Messiah is already the anointed one from the heaven (from God) that come in the flesh and bones

Apocalypse 3:14: The Greek word "ark" can be understood principle, Jesus is the foundation stone of the plan of the Eternal and of the coming kingdom.

Apocalypse 21: 6 and 22:13. Yeshoua summarizes the human history and that one of Israel, especially during his ministry. Alpha (A) and Omega (Z) denotes the whole work of the Eternal inside the man, from the earthly adam (Jesus is his descendent) until the accomplish man, incorruptible, spiritual. The son took the name and title of his father, but is not the creator of the universe.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 A blood and a body without blemish

 
Can the Eternal God die on a wooden cross? Was an archangel from heaven crucified? Does Jesus Christ the Son of the Most High need to be pre-existent to take the sins of mankind?

The Lord is immortal, but he "suffers" for his children (1 Timothy 6:16, Zechariah 12:10, Matthew 25:40). Man is the most important creature and the one who does all his will in union with the Messiah is greater than all existing creators (Genesis 1: 25-29; Hebrews 1 and 2).

This chapter has been revised following a misunderstanding of some readers about the blood of Yeshua on the cross. I did not write that his blood was useless, but that the value of blood (Leviticus 17:11) depends on our state of mind, the spirit of the Lord in us:

Rom 8:11 And if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwelleth in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead will give life to your mortal bodies because of his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

Yeshua could not have had "precious blood" (1 Peter 1:19) without the spirit of the Lord. Yeshua does not need to be God or an angelic, nonhuman creature without blood, living in heaven, to be pure. Yeshua is holy by the spirit that lives in him (Luke 1:35; Acts 10:38).

We absolutely do not need a supernatural creature or creator dying for our sins to forgive, the Lord simply saves through through the Yeshua man. The value of the blood of Christ is not in the sacrifices of the law, but rather in a will to do what it pleases the Lord.
He is therefore capable of giving all his being to God and his friends:

Thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength. "(Deuteronomy 6: 4-5; Matthew 22: 37-39).
Hebrews 10: 8 Having said above, "You did not want sacrifices, nor offerings, nor burnt offerings, nor sacrifices for sin, and you were not pleased with it" -which are offered according to the law,
Hebrews 10: 9 Then he said, "Behold, I come to do thy will." He takes away the first in order to establish the second.
Hebrews 10:10 It is by this will that we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ made once and for all.

The creator is not a god who wishes to satisfy his thirst for blood by the sacrifices of men or animals in the manner of certain peoples. The Bible wishes to teach us good and evil while leaving us our free will. In the Old Testament, the sacrifice of an animal for the forgiveness of sins represented death for those who disobeyed the will of the Lord and were guilty of death. The animal took the place of the culprits, it would die.

The Hebrew word for sacrifice is "korban", it means "approach, bring". We must thus bring something to the creator in order to approach him, but what? Anyone who feeds on the spirit of Christ is moving towards the true purpose of the sacrifices of the law of Moses, we must do the will of the Lord even if we are threatened with death. We. Jesus established a covenant far superior to that of Moses by offering his soul to the Creator Father, his act is greater than the sacrifices of animals that were supposed to take away sins (2 Corinthians 3: 6-8, Hebrews 3: Hebrews 10: 3-4).

The Bible never teaches that we need the magic blood of animals, men, angels, God, to take away original sin. Let us repeat it: it is the spirit that gives life and gives reality and power to our actions. Yeshua (Jesus) becomes a sacrifice for sin without necessarily having a pre-existing body and a magical blood: John 6:63.


When the texts of the new covenant define Jesus as a "lamb without blemish and without spot" (1 Peter 1:19), we must understand that he did not have bodily and mental defects at his birth. He is the firstborn of Joseph and Mary.

In the covenant of Moses, the lamb without blemish and without task was not a creature come from elsewhere who possessed a flesh and chromosomes different from its parents. Jesus was preserved from evil through the Eternal, he did not practice sin, hence the words "did not know / committed sin" (2 Corinthians 5:21).

The lamb without blemish and without task is all the same in a flesh like ours, except that sin has not flourished from the moment when he was able to differentiate between good and evil of divine law. The Son of God therefore resembles us and it is in this sense that we can understand that he was born 100% according to the flesh (Romans 1: 3).


In 1 Peter 1:19 and 2 Corinthians 5:21, we must not take into account a story of original sin to imagine a Jesus who does not possess our flesh (Deuteronomy 24:16). On the contrary, he had to have our flesh to defeat and crucify the old man. It is in this sense that we must understand that Yeshua had flesh in likeness to sin. He was in our flesh, he grew old like everyone else, but did not have "sin" (transgression towards God).
Romans 8: 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set me free from the law of sin and death;
Romans 8: 3 For what was impossible to the law, because it was weak by the flesh, God having sent his own Son in likeness of the flesh of sin, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh ; that the righteous requirement of the law should be fulfilled in us, that walk not according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.



In Conclusion, the blood of Christ is precious because Yeshua is a holy person, thanks to the spirit of the Lord in him. The blood of Yeshua does not need to be a transformation from a superior being into a man. Yeshua became high priest when he entered the most holy place, we must be his imitators. Yeshua is always present to regenerate us (1 John 2: 1-3). The Yeshua man has no magic blood and a God who dies does not exist in the scriptures.

 


Reference source :

 

1Manuscript of the dead sea scroll :"birth of Noah" and "Hénoch".

2Manuscript Syriac n° 14658 du British Muséum.

3 Old Syriac Synaiticus.

4Gospel of Matthiew Shem Tov.

5Claude Tresmont, french version of the gospel of Iéhohanan.

 

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Kevin FOUQUERE

June, 2015